SATURDAY AM: Refresh for extra evaluation…and chart… “This isn’t a field workplace market drawback, it is a inventive growth drawback,” declared one film advertising and marketing vet this weekend over Warner Bros‘ daring swing with a foul, Joker: Folie à Deux which at a manufacturing value of $190M+ internet is coming in manner under projections at $47M…or much less. Friday was $20M (which incorporates previews). Off that determine, trade projections are predicting a landslide immediately for the Todd Phillips directed sequel, down some 20%.
The worry these days in some government corridors is that the headlines for a tentpole that’s bombed is a few nefarious harbinger for the top of theatrical, notably after it’s been rattled by Covid and twin strikes.
Um, no, assume once more.
Brendan Gleeson as Jackie Sullivan and Joaquin Phoenix as Arthur Fleck
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Persons are nonetheless serious about going to the flicks evident in how the trade diminished the deficit with the 2023 B.O. from -20% in the beginning of summer time to a present -11%. You assume R-rated comic-book films don’t work? Have a look at what Deadpool & Wolverine did at $1.3 billion worldwide unseating 2019’s Joker ($1.1B) to develop into the best grossing R-rated film of all-time.
The failure of Joker: Folie à Deux is as clear as an azure sky of deepest summer time: No fan of the unique of film wished to see a musical sequel, Mr. Phillips. Interval.
There isn’t sufficient lipstick to placed on this Joker to point that it’s any type of a win: The unique followers of this movie –which let’s face it are fan boys and males as a result of they purchased tickets at 60%– kicked this clown to the road with a D CinemaScore and a half star on PostTrak. Anybody feeling Megalopolis deja vu from final weekend, you’re not imagining issues. That film obtained a D+ CinemaScore. The distinction right here after all is that Warners spent extra advertising and marketing than Zoetrope and Lionsgate to get this Joaquin Phoenix-Girl Gaga sequel to some cultural international relevance.
No quantity of intelligent advertising and marketing (not promoting the pic as a musical; promoting it as a Joker movie) may save this. The most important promotional cardinal sin of all of them: Launching this sequel which didn’t have the products on the Venice Movie Pageant. Why would any studio put a film on the market, notably with the terrible viewers scores under, and let it sit on Rotten Tomatoes for a month with unhealthy opinions? Sources inform me it was all a part of Warner Bros appeasing Phillips, which is why they allowed him to make this auteur-ish Stephen Sondheim-like characteristic within the first place. Between the Hangover franchise and Joker, Warners has reaped $2.5 billion off of Phillips fare on the field workplace. What do you do with a director whose performed that a lot for you? Give him closing lower. Joker 2 was put into growth by the earlier Toby Emmerich administration and continued to be supported by the present Michael De Luca-Pamela Abdy period on the Warner Bros Movement Image Studio. The film isn’t half of the present DC Studios’ part one Gods and Monsters.
Which leads us to the manufacturing value. Some say $200M, we imagine it’s at $190M. Nevertheless, how the hell did a finances for a film which doesn’t have jack-knife trailer truck stunt ala Darkish Knight, and arguably little CGI, mushroom from its authentic’s value of round $70M (and that had main co-financiers on the time in Village Roadshow and Bron, every taking 25% share) to $190M+? If the finances doubled to $140M, that’s one factor. However clearly who was minding the manufacturing ledger right here throughout the David Zaslav job-cutting, cost-cutting, cash-flow-apalooza at Warner Bros Discovery? Sources inform me that between Phillips, Gaga and Pheonix, they repped $50M of value. Area co-financed Joker 2 I hear to the tune of 25%.

Anya Taylor-Pleasure in ‘Furiosa: A Mad Max Saga’
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Let’s not fault Warners and Phillips for breaking the boundaries of cinema. God bless ’em, they made the $168M Furiosa earlier this yr which solely yielded $173.3M international. Nobody wished a Mad Max spinoff sans Charlize Theron, however rattling, if that George Miller film wasn’t the second coming of Sergio Leone stylistically. However in the event you’re gonna go loopy, and pretentiously title your movie Folie a Deux, which additionally means in moviegoer language “keep away” — you’re gonna lose money, and also you’re gonna lose butts in seats. It’s not just like the audiences’ film tastes for a Joker right here modified between pre-Covid and post-Covid. It’s not unhealthy films — it’s unhealthy budgets as I’ve written earlier than. Auteur cinema comes at a price. Are you aware how a lot Brady Corbet’s three-hour with an intermission publish WWII The Brutalist value I hear? $6M.
Extra good issues to say in the midst of this maelstrom: for a Hollywood studio whose earlier administration went theatrical-day-and-date on HBO Max throughout Covid with its characteristic slate, thus ticking off the city, let the file present that full inventive and monetary freedom was given right here to a filmmaker to make the film that he wished.
The unique Joker netted $437M in revenue after its $1.1 billion on the field workplace, and a B+ CinemaScore.

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Additionally hold this in thoughts with regard to finances spend to field workplace {dollars}. Joker 2 is opening within the vary of different non-Disney dwell motion musicals on the field workplace, learn Gaga’s October 2018 Oscar successful A Star Is Born ($42.9M) and it’s a number of million lower than Bohemian Rhapsody ($51M). Right here’s what’s fascinating about Joker 2: Whereas moviegoers clearly didn’t wish to see a musical model of the Taxi Driver-inspired 2019 film, the sequel works greatest when it’s a Bonnie and Clyde-Fred Astaire and Ginger Rogers love dovey extravaganza. Joker 2 drags immensely when it’s a courtroom drama. By comparability, Joker 2 makes Paul Newman’s 5x Oscar-nominated The Verdict appear like Velocity with Keanu Reeves. If Warners actually leaned into the musical side of the film, put the pedal to the metallic in attracting ladies, and at a decrease value — who is aware of, maybe the cost-revenue ratio could be totally different. I’m informed that if Warners sat on Joker 2 and skipped Venice, unveiling absolutely earlier this week, we might be presumably taking a look at one other $10M in its stateside ticket gross sales.
Extra below the hood of Joker 2: Males over 25 attended essentially the most at 41% with a 40% grade, adopted by females over 25 with a 46% grade, males below 25 at 19% with a 34% grade, and ladies below 25 at 16% with a forty five% grade. Sixty-three % of the viewers was 18-34. The range turnout was 43% Caucasian, 27% Latino and Hispanic, 8% Black, 17% Asian & 5% NatAm/Different. Imax and PLFs repped 41% of the weekend’s ticket gross sales to date. Finest markets in East, Central and West with AMC Lincoln Sq. in NYC the pic’s highest grossing location at $104k.
Forty-three % went to Joker 2 due to Phenix, 39% went due to Gaga, 39% additionally went as a result of it was a part of a franchise they love, 23% mentioned it seemed enjoyable and entertaining, whereas solely 7% heard it was “good.”
Ya need some excellent news in all of this? The weekend field workplace is at $100M, which is +8% from final weekend, and a 21% surge over the identical body a yr in the past.
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FRIDAY PM: As of this minute, Todd Phillips’ audacious Joker: Folie à Deux is taking a look at an OK Friday of $20M, together with final evening’s $7M, and hoping to remain above $50M however may sink to $45M at 4,102 theaters. Numbers-wise, despite the fact that it was a PG-13 film, this seems far too much like The Marvels, which posted $6.6M previews, a $21.6M first day and disastrous 3-day of $46.1M. That film really was costlier than Joker 2, $270M to $190M. The worry is that the unhealthy word-of-mouth on this film will make it more and more frontloaded with a freefall on Saturday.
RelishMix observed good social media metrics with the pic’s follower attain at 567.3M throughout TikTok, YouTube, X, Instagram and Fb, which is 7% above superhero style norms earlier than opening. Girl Gaga’s followers throughout all platforms clocked 231.3M followers with 43.7M views feeding into her Instagram. Nevertheless, the unhealthy buzz post-Venice, the place the film clocked 62% contemporary with critics on RT, seeped into presales, which have been heard weren’t wonderful forward of opening.
Elsewhere, Common’s DreamWorks Animation’s The Wild Robotic at 3,997 venues is seeing a second Friday of $4.9M and a second weekend of $19.5M, -46%, for a 10-day of $64.7M.
Warner Bros. has higher luck this weekend with Beetlejuice Beetlejuice at 3,576 websites, which is able to proceed to carry in Weekend 5 at -30%. It’s posting a 3-day of $11.4M after a near-$3M Friday for a operating whole by Sunday of $266.5M, nonetheless the second-highest-grossing film of September behind 2017’s It ($327.4M).
Fourth belongs to Paramount’s Transformers One at 3,106 areas with a 3rd Friday of $1.35M, third weekend of $5.5M, -40% and a operating whole of $47.4M.
Fifth is Common/Blumhouse’s fourth weekend of Communicate No Evil at 2,274 websites, with $900K immediately, a 3-day of $3M, -30% for a operating whole of $32.7M.
Outdoors the highest 5 is Lionsgate’s misfire White Chook with $650K immediately, and $1.5M-$2M opening for the weekend.
FRIDAY AM: Warner Bros’ Todd Phillips-directed sequel Joker: Folie à Deux earned $7M in previews that started at 3 p.m. Thursday. The quantity signifies that the $190M+ film may get to a $50M opening, notably when comped in opposition to films that exceeded that threshold of their begins comparable to Mission: Not possible: Useless Reckoning – Half One ($7M final yr), No Time to Die ($6.3M in 2021) and John Wick: Chapter 3: Parabellum ($5.9M in 2019).
Neglect about the truth that Joker 2‘s previews are off by 47% from the primary 2019 movie’s $13.3M, which mushroomed to a $39.3M Friday and the most important October home opening of all time with $96.2M. We knew that was going to occur.
What’s not humorous is the Comscore/Display screen Engine PostTrak viewers exits for Joker 2, which inform a distinct story.
Whereas many knew this Joaquin Phoenix-Girl Gaga combo could be challenged attributable to the truth that it’s a musical, the fanboys full-out rejected the sequel final evening on PostTrak with a 1/2 star and 40% constructive. Holy guacamole, Batman. Did the Megalopolis cynics present up final evening? As a result of that’s the identical Thursday evening grade (really 45% constructive) that the Francis Ford Coppola-directed $120M dystopian epic obtained every week in the past earlier than inching as much as one star on PostTrak. Or, wait, did PostTrak change up the reviews? Lionsgate’s Helen Mirren film White Chook obtained 5 stars final evening! That characteristic tackle R.J. Palacio’s novel, which is a sequel and prequel to Surprise, is just anticipated to make $2M this weekend on 1,018 theaters after a $275K Thursday evening. Critiques for the film stand at 72% on Rotten Tomatoes.
A really low 24% say they’ll positively suggest Joker 2 to their pals. God is aware of what this implies for the sequel’s stability all through the weekend. RT viewers rating for Joker 2 is also within the gutter at 36%, with crucial opinions plummeting from 62% contemporary to 39% Rotten.
BTW, CinemaScore exits normally are extra light than PostTrak, however God is aware of the place that will probably be. Megalopolis obtained a D+ final weekend. Additionally, Joker 2‘s previews are $400K greater than the $6.6M The Marvels, which fell aside with a $46.1M opening final November — the bottom ever for a Marvel Studios Disney title.
Remainder of the week was as follows:
1.) The Wild Robotic (Uni) 3,962 theaters, Thu $2M (+9% from Wednesday), Wk $45M/Wk 1
2.) Beetlejuice Beetlejuice (WB) 3,804 theaters, Thu $972K (-12%), Wk $20.9M, Complete $255M/Wk 4
3.) Transformers One (Par) 3,970 (-8) theaters, Thu $602k (-1%), Wk $11.9M, Complete $41.7M/Wk 2
4.) Communicate No Evil (Uni) 2,971 (-704) theaters, Thu $287K (-28%), Wk $5.9M, Complete $29.7M/Wk 3
5.) Devara Half 1 (Prath) 1,040 theaters, Thu $78K (-40%), Wk $5.57M/Wk 1
6.) Megalopolis (LG) 1,854 theaters, Thu $233K (-34%), Wk $5.4M/Wk 1
